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Also a strongly felt opinon (that no-one asked for but it just obtusely came to mind as ‘somewhat relevant to the topic of DAOs’):

There’s no such thing as ‘flat hierarchy’. Stfu ????????????????????A hierarchy is a hierarchy of power, value, skill, survival priorities etc.

An organization can have more direct & open lines of communication but WTF is a ‘flat hierarchy’!?!???????!!!! ????????????????????????????????

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Very awesome, thanks ????????<div>

I’d only heard of Glassfrog.

For ‘web3’ tools/types of folks there’s

https://snapshot.org/

https://daohaus.club/

& even Hypha (the same people who run SEEDS https://hypha.earth).

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wah! awesome, thanks for sharing.

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Hypha’s toolkit is pretty neat (still in Beta). https://hypha.earth/get-started/create-your-dao/

I might actually use it for whatever I’m building.

Typically people wire together a few tools like Snapshot https://snapshot.org/#/ for voting etc.

(Neighborhoods still in Alpha, only devs can mess around.)

hypha.earth

Create Your DAO - Hypha

Create a DAO easily with Hypha’s platform. We help you get your DAO up and running in no time!

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Hypha’s DAO/DHO software is ready for free account test-driving… I personally can’t wrap my head around their use of labels re: Archetypes (hahaha took me a while to get used to RegenTribe’s labels, too), prefer more “secularized language”…

My ‘preferred alternative’ to Hypha – https://whitepaper.neighbourhoods.network/white-paper-2.0/neighbourhoods-a-web-3.0-groupware-framework/product-suite/sensemaker-dashboard

I vaguely remember OASA/Closer might have developed their own onchain co-ordination tool as well…?

whitepaper.neighbourhoods.network

Sensemaker Dashboard - White Paper

Sensemaker Dashboard - White Paper

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Oo, so they did actually change their ‘income model’. Sweet. It’s a little TOO much of an organically-grown community software for me.

A couple of months ago, I sent feedback to someone who emailed me about activating a Freemium test account (you probably could, too) about their ecosystem & pricing model being unclear to me & what ‘stake/voting power’ would I have in influencing the feature development based on financial input etc.

I’d want the freedom of potentially changing ‘softwares’ without too much fuss & sunk upfront costs if it evolves in an unhelpful way to me, so just watching it for now.

Tools can be built up around an ecosystem that already works, for me technology means “pulling levers” (even if the process is to iterate fast, decide whether to fix what breaks according to user feedback) not organic growth ????????????️

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Imo, DAOs don’t work for everyone/every type of being.

It’s just another way to organize, record, share rewards, compensate etc.

Village tribes also have their own hierarchies or value-system(s), jungle natives have their shamans, etc.

I personally find it somewhat inefficient if there’s too many people involved, can be long-winded (like me, when I’m on a roll??? )… It’s like a dilution of power & expertise if not correctly setup.

A startup would have a different co-ordination to another startup &/or mere community outings based on leisure, recreation, interest. So the DAO rules would be setup differently.

Imo the people who make too much of a big deal about them have (internally felt, might be conscious or not) issues with ‘power balance’… Hence a need to try & experiment with different configurations.

Someone(s) would need to start the DAO. Then it would need maintenance & momentum… Just like with anything else. It just depends who values what & rewards based on the criteria that suits the (initial/future) DAO members.

How’s this different from being a startup co/founder & product-market fit? Idk. ????????

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For me it’s important not to confuse/conflate the Blockchain (Primary ecosystem), Product (software, features), voting power of the Community & Creators (ie. Secondary/Plurality of Ecosystem(s)).

Technology has no emotions, people do. People can build technology for any reason, based on emotions or not. And my guts say “no” to using it ,????

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U can see what’s up w existing DAOs here when it’s not ‘under maintenance’ https://dao.hypha.earth

I personally wouldn’t use it – too unstable as a ‘software’ with too high a buy-in price for me (although there’s probably a 1-time fee option… But who makes these decisions with what quorum? Too complicated for me…) Feature-set looks good though.

Unless ‘you’re’ pretty committed to the community & ecosystem… I wouldn’t.

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Ya, i admire the leadership ability of a core duo (or primary partnership/founding-team) of most eco-developments to initially lay the groundwork for getting things ‘done’ (ie. started up), have their employees & management systems, plus have their own sub-system(s) implemented to for ‘residential inclusiveness’.

But apart from needing money for start-up, this type of community model also still entails sufficient $money for buy-in, though not at the ‘socialite level of expenditures’.

It still comes across to me like the tried-&-true method of buying a pre-built product – just like from any other Real Estate developer (or I guess, anyone in any other business, community, project – unless the member gets hired & given ‘sweat equity’).

An interesting ‘mindfk of possibilities’ for me has been when i observe & consider the burgeoning notions of ‘decentralized communities’ (crypto-hype notwithstanding) & how they work together to create products & experiences that the members actually want…

… while participants (filtered applicants) get to buy-in at a lower price point & WITHOUT things being & becoming a total clusterfk ????

Eg. https://www.cabin.city/

Someone had to buy the lands upfront (&/or get it handed to them via donation or partnership) but. O_O*